Officers “did not need the Emergencies Act”, according to a prominent Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) officer, who testified Friday on day 7 of the hearings into the controversial use of the Act.

Chief Superintendent Carson Pardy, who was one of the most senior law enforcement officers involved in the effort during the Freedom Convoy, told Commission lawyers that the Emergencies Act invocation wasn’t required to tow vehicles and that existing police strategies in place prior to invoking the act would have been sufficient to clear the protests within the same time period.

Commission lawyer Frank Au asked Pardy, “In your view, was there a police solution to the demonstration?”

“There was a solution and we reached that solution,” Pardy said. “We had some help with the Emergencies Act but in my humble opinion we would have reached the same conclusion with the plan that we had without (the Act).”

OPP Chief Superintendent Carson Pardy says that there was a police solution to ending the Freedom Convoy and it could’ve been done in the same time period without the Emergencies Act invocation.#POEC pic.twitter.com/2moBgt6uWB

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“Did the police in Ottawa end up needing the Emergencies Act to tow vehicles?” Au asked Pardy.

“No,” Pardy responded. “We have various authorities to seize and/or remove or tow vehicles. So we did not need the Emergencies Act.”

Pardy went on to say that the Act “helped” police execute their plan and it allowed them to stop people from entering the “red zone”, but “we could’ve done that anyway,” Pardy said.

OPP Chief Superintendent Carson Pardy says that there was a police solution to ending the Freedom Convoy and it could’ve been done in the same time period without the Emergencies Act invocation.#POEC pic.twitter.com/2moBgt6uWB

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Counsel representing the Saskatchewan government also pressed Pardy on his signing off on an operational plan to clear the protesters from Ottawa without requiring the powers given to law enforcement in the Act.

“When you signed off on that plan you were confident that it could be implemented to end the occupation?” Saskatchewan counsel asked. “That February 13th plan did not contemplate any powers under the federal Emergencies Act, correct?”

Pardy confirmed that the operations plan – which was also signed off by the RCMP and the OPS – did not involve Emergencies Act powers and could be implemented without the invocation of the act.

OPP Supt. Dan Abrams was cross examined earlier today by lawyers representing various groups given standing by the Commission before Pardy was called to testify.

Democracy Fund lawyer Alan Honner asked Abrams if the sharp increase of OPP officers deployed to Ottawa prior to and immediately after the invocation of the Act was caused by the Act or if it was going to happen regardless of whether Justin Trudeau took the last resort measures.

Abrams agreed with Honner that the officer deployment would’ve happened “in any event” and that the increase in officers on the ground from the OPP was “directly related to what we know was an operational plan with the public order team that needed extra support.”

OPP supt. Dan Abrams tells Democracy Fund lawyer Alan Honner that the added deployment of OPP officers to Ottawa was already underway prior to the invocation of the Emergencies Act.#POEC pic.twitter.com/Eor1BDvHIR

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Lawyers representing the Government of Canada aimed to extract testimony from Abrams that would indicate that the excessive force used by officers to crack down on the protesters in Ottawa didn’t result in “death or bodily injury” to any of the protesters.

Abrams disagreed with government lawyers, saying “there was bodily injury to participants coming from my side.” Abrams cited Ontario’s Special Investigations Unit’s subsequent investigation into the actions of the riot officers that day as evidence that bodily injury to protesters did occur.
“You’re not aware of any death or serious bodily injuries though?” government lawyers asked Abrams.

“I’m not aware of any deaths. I have to say that I saw serious bodily injury because if you look at the mandate of the Special Investigations Unit of Ontario, they only become involved when there is serious bodily injury,” Abrams responded.

OPP supt. Dan Abrams confirms that that the police caused “serious bodily injury” to protesters when the Emergencies Act was invoked to quash the peaceful Freedom Convoy.#POEC pic.twitter.com/KbQNJoDI3h

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Honner asked Pardy if he also took issue with the media labeling protesters in Ottawa as “extremists”.

Pardy agreed and went into detail about the uniqueness of the typical Freedom Convoy protester.

“The profile of the protester for this event was none like I had ever seen in my 36 year career. We had everything from grandparents, I was shown a picture of two retired officers in the crowd that I had worked with, we saw children, we saw a lot of crestfallen police officers in the crowd, military, nurses.” Pardy said. “It wasn’t your normal group of people that we were dealing with.”

Convoy lawyers continued to press law enforcement officials on the lack of a plan and the breakdown of communication between different levels of law enforcement and different units on the ground prior to and after the invocation of the act.

Convoy lawyer Bath-Sheba Van Den Berg questioned Abrams on whether the invocation of the Act had any effect on solving the communication failures taking place among law enforcement units.

“Do you agree with me that after the invocation of the Emergencies Act that these integration problems and communication problems did not improve?” Van Den Berg asked Abrams.

“Within the police liaison teams (PLT) there were still issues,” Abrams said.

Van Den Berg then asked Abrams if the communication problems between the OPP PLT teams and Ottawa Police Service (OPS) PLT teams would lead to decision-making problems from the perspective of law enforcement. Abrams agreed and said that the failures in communication had a negative impact on accessing critical information from convoy leadership.

OPP supt. Dan Abrams says communication between Ottawa police and OPP officers was poor throughout the Freedom Convoy, and that the invocation of the Emergencies Act did not result in better communication.#POEC pic.twitter.com/1pIg1hp4yR

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Van den Berg at the end of cross examination of Abrams asked him about whether any officers involved in physical altercations with protesters submitted required “use-of-force reports” in order to document physical engagement with protesters.

“Were any use-of-force reports completed after the major operations after the invocation of the Emergencies Act?” Van Den Berg asked Abrams.

“I’m not aware” Abrams responded.

You can watch the entirety of convoy lawyer Van Den Berg’s cross examination of OPP Supt. Dan Abrams below.

What happens next?

Hearings resume on Monday, October 24 at 9:30 am ET.

Scheduled to testify next week is former Ottawa police chief Peter Sloly and acting Ottawa police chief Steve Bell along with the Commissioner of the OPP Thomas Carrique and other high ranking law enforcement officials from both the OPS and the OPP.

True North will continue to bring you daily coverage of the ongoing Public Order Emergency Commission hearings.

 

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