Hannes Sarv in Paris. (Source: No Boiling Planet)

Peter Baeten
Date: 10 November 2026

Professor Judith Curry in No Boiling Planet: “It’s economic suicide”

What’s your view on climate now?

“I don’t think humans are causing a catastrophe with their actions. And I don’t think that carbon dioxide is causing much warming. I think that all these absurd statements about floods and hurricanes getting worse, are purely false.”

“So, the issue is that this is not fact-based. And this is, for me as a journalist, the thing that I want to address. We need to stay fact-based, and we cannot say things that are false. I do think that the public is really misinformed about the climate issue.”

What was the aim and the motivation of making No Boiling Planet?

“The motivation is to show people that what you hear about climate and climate change in the media is not accurate. This is what people need to know and think about and need to address when there are elections. They need to ask these things from politicians, they need to vote accordingly.”

“Also, I wanted to share all the things I have learned myself during this journey investigating climate topics. Nobody else is talking about contrary views and if they do, these views get labelled as misinformation.”

“They also labelled Martin Durkin’s Climate: The Movie, a very good documentary about the same issues, misinformation. But we managed to get it on Estonian television. Hopefully our film will do as well as Climate: The Movie, and Durkin’s older movie The Great Global Warming Swindle, which also is a very good film. For me, those films were actually kind of role models. Our take, our narration is a bit different, building up the story, and we are more focused on what Europe is doing.”

Do you think that the climate tide is turning?

“Sure, it is going to be better. Just look at the climate conferences, the COPs. At the last climate conference, the final document did not mention that they are going to phase out fossil fuels anymore. Most of the world doesn’t want to hear any more of these statements, because fossil fuels are the basis of the way of life we have today. And we cannot replace them. So, yes, peak climate has passed, most of the world has moved on.”

So we’re left with the strange situation that Europe is basically the only part of the world still pursuing net zero, thereby potentially committing economic suicide.

“Yes, it is hard to explain. But I think that, for example in Estonia, more and more people are becoming aware that the alarmist talking points are not actually true, and they are starting to raise questions. So, in Estonia, and this is partly because of our work as well, the needle is moving towards a more rational approach, and towards adapting to climate change. Because we cannot stop the climate from changing anyway.”

“In Western Europe, the problem is that a movie like ours would be cancelled right away. So the narrative is still strong there. They are in lockstep marching forward, as the governments are still pushing it from the top down.”

“Why are they keeping this kind of course? One answer might be that they want to restrict freedoms and have more control over people’s lives. But I think politicians today have a somewhat different problem. They have been talking about climate change for too long. They have talked about wind and solar becoming cheap, that they are going to be environmentally friendly and they are going to give us abundant energy. They have been closing down nuclear power plants and coal plants and throwing taxpayer money at those other solutions that do not work.”

Prof. Samuel Furfari in No Boiling Planet about the EU: “Nobody followed us”.

Do you really think that politicians realize deep down that wind and solar are no solutions?

“They must realize. They’re not stupid after all. Are they? I mean, this is basic physics.”

In your documentary, Richard Lindzen says something psychological must be going on: “They need a psychiatrist.”

“Well, yes, some of the politicians probably do need a psychiatrist. They cannot see what surrounds them. And another thing: we talked about those climate conferences and I mentioned that no phasing out fossil fuels document was drafted last time. But did you see any panic in Europe? Europe emits only 6% of greenhouse gases. So, if China, the USA, Russia, India and everybody else continues emitting greenhouse gasses, then there should be panic, right? But I didn’t see any panic at all.”

“This is absurd. So, I really think that they must be, really, really stupid, or they have different motives, or they have said this for tens of years, and they simply cannot change anymore. So, we need a new generation of politicians to come and change it, because politicians usually do not take back their words, do they?”

Is this the way this will be resolved in Europe? A new generation of politicians who can take different positions?

“Yes, parties like Alternative for Deutschland or Le Pen’s party, or UK’s Reform, sooner or later will be in power, probably. Then it’s all going to collapse anyway.”

Finally, what other issues is Freedom Research working on?

“We are dedicated to highlighting the problems related to individual freedoms and protecting them. The pressure to strip us of our freedoms has been quite intense during the last decade or so. These freedoms are basically the main human rights. This is freedom of thought, freedom of speech, academic freedom, freedom of health choices, freedom from data collection and surveillance. And freedom of one’s personal way of life.”

“Police investigations are now quite common, even for jokes online. We need to push back against it, at all costs, because if we are stripped of these freedoms, we don’t have a free society anymore.”

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